Over Staying your Welcome
07.08.08 (9:17 am) [edit]Isn't it an embarrassing moment when the host feels like the guest has over stayed their welcome and publicly via the news media ask them to leave. Nouri Al Maliki via a news release ask the U.S. to set a withdrawal date. The U.S. has consistently accused every American who insisted on a with drawl date as a cut and run politican and that setting a date to withdraw would only give Al Qaeda more time to prepare to take over Iraq. We must remember that Al Qaeda didn't come to Iraq until after we invaded it.
Have we taken on the attitude that we must be a nanny state? if you look back over our history and every war we have been involved in except Vietnam we are still their care taker for as long as they let us stay. Europe,Japan, Korea and possibly Iraq. Is it our condescending attitude toward other nations or do we feel we just need some body to take care of. We have enough problems at home like health care,education, infrastructure decline, energy and global warming to solve rather than taking on another dependent
posted by: squirrelzone (reply)
post date: 07.08.08 (9:35 am)
We've taken the big brother role to an extreme.
posted by: barnabus1 (reply)
post date: 07.08.08 (9:53 am)
We preach Democracy elsewhere...yet flee from it here at home!!!
posted by: truthserum42 (reply)
post date: 07.08.08 (12:06 pm)
Reply to: barnabus1 I don't think we flee from it because it sound like a good policy to institute so that every body will have equal access to the type of government they want by a single vote. But we do put some silly restraints on people who can vote, like not allowing felons to vote because of their prison record even after they have served their time. It's very easy to get a felony charge because if you commit a crime that cost $5000.00 dollars it is considered a felony and it can be used to keep you from choosing who you want to represent you. So as great as democracy is, the restraints put on some classes and race of people can stream line the voting public into what the powers to be want it. I remember as late as 1964 before blacks could register to vote they had to interpret the constitution to a clerk who had no legal experience and yet black made up 22% of combat infantry force in Vietnam at that time. And what about the electoral college board that can prevent a person who wins the popular vote being denied the victory because a vote in Idaho is the same as 25 votes in California or New york. But as they say remember the golden rule, they who have the gold makes the rule and so goes democracy
posted by: truthserum42 (reply)
post date: 07.08.08 (12:07 pm)
Reply to: squirrelzone And we have also become very possessive in our care taker state.
posted by: barnabus1 (reply)
post date: 07.08.08 (1:15 pm)
Reply to: truthserum42
What I was refering to is Bush's all but throwing out the consitiution that gave us Democracy...he said at one point, "It's just a piece of paper"!
Throwing out Habeus Corpus, and even a right to know what one is charged with and what if any evidence do you have against them!! running from the Constitution and Democracy!!!
posted by: truthserum42 (reply)
post date: 07.08.08 (9:32 pm)
Reply to: barnabus1 You are right on, on the constitution. On tomorrow the congress and senate is going to vote to give telecommunication companies immunity from prosecution for violating our 4th amendment rights to be free from illegal search and seizure. They listened to our private phone calls with out a legal warrant simply because somebody in the administration told them to do so. Can a get away driver or robbery look out claim immunity from prosecution because the robber told them to do so. The congress now uses the excuse that is time to move on, has our imperial presidency now become above the law if something isn't done regarding executive privilege we are going to be in serious trouble in the future and the Supreme Court will be of no help to the citizenry of this country in seeking redress of wrong by the government.
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 07.09.08 (6:26 am)
Reply to: truthserum42
Sad day.