When Black Man Speaks
03.20.08 (3:05 pm) [edit]A black Pastor of a Church on the south side of Chicago made some inflammatory remarks about the U.S. Government. Many people have accused him of preaching a victimization sermon but the truth of the matter is that you have to be victimized before you can cry victimization and knowing the environment from which he came I think he is well qualified to speak from his own experience. Pastor Dave kudos to you I think you evaluated the sermon in it's entirety rather than the few sound bites that has been given.
Reverend Wright spoke about the drug problem in the black community, how did they get there when no black in the community had a plane or large truck to introduce that amount of drugs in a community. Where were the law enforcement agencies when the drug dealers were blatantly selling drugs on the corner in plain sight of every one. So the Reverend was right either the police was instrumental in introducing the drugs, or aided and abetted the drug dealers in selling the drugs in the community with impunity. Have you ever noticed the number of liquor stores in the black community and none of them are owned by black people. How is it that Asians and other nationalities can come to America get liquor licenses and put liquors stores in the black communities without the black community approval and yet the blacks can't qualify for a liquor license. Isn't that a form of victimization.
What about the segregated and unequal schools that blacks were made to attend because of de jure segregation by the government yet blacks paid the same amount of tax on the dollar as did the whites, isn't that a form of victimization. In 1964 I returned home from vietnam and couldn't buy a house in the community that I wanted to live but I had to spend a year fighting for freedom for the Vietnamese that I didn't enjoy in my own country, isn't that a form of victimization. In 1965 the voting rights act was passed giving blacks the right to vote for their elected representatives for the first time but the constitution was ratified in 1776 declaring that all men were created equal and endowed with certain inalienable rights. Wasn't that a form of victimization.
So Fractalmom until you have walked at least a mile in that black pastor's shoes do tell us how great you are.
posted by: surrogate (reply)
post date: 03.20.08 (3:16 pm)
Well put.
posted by: docsavage (reply)
post date: 03.20.08 (5:54 pm)
You know I agree with your point-of-view on this one and I'm glad there's a less controversial character joining the fray on the side of reason and a willingness to honestly address the absurdity of the "boot-strap". I guarantee you that if we knew the true story for each these supposed "boot-strap" success stories, we'd find that they were helped again and again and again by help from others time and time and time again. The truth is that if you could clone Pastor Dave and Fractalmom as black people and throw them into a family on the South Side of Chicago not 1 in 10 of their clones would find a set of these magic bootstraps to lift themselves out of their persistent poverty.
I'm not even going to make a big issue out of the fact that Pastor Dave doesn't even pay taxes (nor does Rev. Wright)! I wish some politician other than the Libertarians would support ending "Welfare for Churches as we know it". First, Churches guilt their members into practicing the "discipline of tithing" and then they take turn their membership into quasi-political organizations each election cycle. Not taxing churches is a farce and should be stopped immediately!
posted by: truthserum42 (reply)
post date: 03.21.08 (8:59 am)
Reply to: docsavage I agree with you most of the pastors try to act like C.E.O's of large corporation and now have the audacity to make their wives co pastors and the church stands by and accept it. But let a single woman announce her calling and all hell breaks loose.